A clinical psychologist and psychiatrist involved in MAPS' phase 3 MDMA trials weigh in on the ethical and ontological challenges of psychedelic psychotherapy
I’m curious. So do you or any of the people that you interview have lived experience with PTSD or is it for you an interesting thought experiment? Referring to interesting philosophical instruments @ 13:45 is pretty insensitive and horrible way of framing it. Am I taking things out of context?
Philosophy is certainly a worthy intellectual pursuit and spiritual experiences are something to behold when you experience them. And do you consider the possibility that intellectually bracketing the experience of those who suffer could be a psychological strategy to prevent yourself from feeling the pain and suffering of those who seek treatment? (I’m at 15:00 in the interview — I’ll keep you updated. As this is a 2 hour interview — it’s going to take me a few days …)
Thank you for doing the interview. It’s always good to get another perspective on things — especially from the providers.
An insensitive and horrible way of framing what? I wasn't talking about psychedelics in a mental health context or about PTSD or PAT in that instance, but sharing the other domains of human existence wherein these chemicals show themselves to be relevant *aside from* the mental health context (ie, philosophical research, ceremonial use, mystical experience, etc.).
I am not intellectually bracketing but expressing curiosity about domains other than that of psychopathology/mental illness. I have and continue to live in and around various levels of relational trauma but on the whole I've led a privileged existence up to this point in life.
But I don't know what gives you the impression that I have any intention of ignoring the suffering of those seeking PAT? I only asked these gentlemen to speak with me because I believe these medicines can help.
I’m curious. So do you or any of the people that you interview have lived experience with PTSD or is it for you an interesting thought experiment? Referring to interesting philosophical instruments @ 13:45 is pretty insensitive and horrible way of framing it. Am I taking things out of context?
Philosophy is certainly a worthy intellectual pursuit and spiritual experiences are something to behold when you experience them. And do you consider the possibility that intellectually bracketing the experience of those who suffer could be a psychological strategy to prevent yourself from feeling the pain and suffering of those who seek treatment? (I’m at 15:00 in the interview — I’ll keep you updated. As this is a 2 hour interview — it’s going to take me a few days …)
Thank you for doing the interview. It’s always good to get another perspective on things — especially from the providers.
An insensitive and horrible way of framing what? I wasn't talking about psychedelics in a mental health context or about PTSD or PAT in that instance, but sharing the other domains of human existence wherein these chemicals show themselves to be relevant *aside from* the mental health context (ie, philosophical research, ceremonial use, mystical experience, etc.).
I am not intellectually bracketing but expressing curiosity about domains other than that of psychopathology/mental illness. I have and continue to live in and around various levels of relational trauma but on the whole I've led a privileged existence up to this point in life.
But I don't know what gives you the impression that I have any intention of ignoring the suffering of those seeking PAT? I only asked these gentlemen to speak with me because I believe these medicines can help.