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Elsa Stevenson's avatar

This conversation covers several very important points to consider in the times ahead. They could and should be further unpacked. I feel that more consideration could be taken from esoteric traditions who have worked long and deep into these matters. Initiates can be understood as pioneers of the human journey. But I also acknowledge how important it is to let go of old structures and frames when diving into the spirituality of our age.

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Simon van der Els's avatar

Thank you for voicing these sides, it's something I also wonder

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Dahlia Daos's avatar

Astral disease as a consequence of multidimensional colonialism is entirely too funny, terrifying, and existentially tragic.

There is a deeply silly part of me who laughs while the rest of me stares into the abyss, and I cannot thank you enough for that.

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Tim Adalin's avatar

The battle against ordinary consumption / *listening* / *thinking* patterns has been key in a lot of this for me. The medium of interview and most podcasts may be perpetuating this in interesting ways.

Just one factor that makes deeper acquaintance with concept more challenging.

This is Carl Hayden Smith on VC with DMTx as a focus btw: https://youtu.be/Q-ZpSOVDBvQ?si=yTIoqqwR1b8EZwy-

Look forward to talking again soon I hope Matt

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Matthew David Segall's avatar

Definitely down for another dialogue with you, Tim

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Simon van der Els's avatar

I was happy with this one, we ranged across some very interesting terrain.

There's an impulse in me to seek out advanced practicioners or shamans who are adept at this multirealm communication, and at the same time there is this curiousity or sensibility in me that is wanting to "reinvent the wheel".

It may be interesting to explore these topics with prominent psychonauts from both western backgrounds and more indigenous. This probably is already being done and I'm just not aware of it.

Thanks once more for hosting Matt!

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Dahlia Daos's avatar

"We discussed the second coming of Christ as radically distributed, leading Simon to observe that “a large amount of people who have psychotic breaks proclaim themselves to be the second coming of Christ,” and that perhaps “they’re all right” on some mystical level."

I couldn't help but laugh at how funny that is, like how incredibly hilarious it would be if that were the case, but then considered it seriously for a brief moment and decided I want to listen to it (once fully awake). I was reluctant since I'm in the early days of my own journey with psychedelics but this is too intriguing.

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Danders's avatar

Have you found a prompt to allow your (quite often useful) GPT summaries to take a first person viewpoint OR is this summary from you. I have to say that I find this one more useful than the identified AI ones !

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Matthew David Segall's avatar

This one is based on an AI summary but every sentence was so heavily edited I did not note it as such.

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