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Jalil Arif's avatar

Loved it! Thank you for writing this. Reminded me of this passage of Whitehead:

"Many a scientist has patiently designed experiments for the purpose of substantiating his belief that animal operations are motivated by no purposes. He has perhaps spent his spare time in writing articles to prove that human beings are as other animals so that 'purpose' is a category irrelevant for the explanation of their bodily activities, his own activities included. Scientists animated by the purpose of proving that they are purposeless constitute an interesting subject for study."

That self-undermining irony is exactly what you're circling throughout your essay, the epistemic subject who claims to have dissolved the epistemic subject... The researcher who uses reason, curiosity, and intention to argue that reason, curiosity, and intention are epiphenomenal noise. The whole edifice collapses under its own weight, and yet it continues to be performed, as you note, with the confidence of someone who has forgotten they are standing on a philosophical floor they did not build.

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I appreciate the bit about science necessarily operating within a philosophical framework — that even the idea of being “neutral”, whatever that means, is itself a philosophical position. It reminds me of Kafka’s ‘The Investigations of a Dog’. Found it illuminating upon analysis, because fundamentally the story is an examination of how our intellectual frameworks and underlying assumptions shape and limit the kind of knowledge we produce, questions we pose, and therefore, the kind of reality we construct. It’s a great piece, I recommend it :)

Also, kastrup’s analytic idealism was one of my first introductions to idealism. I found it to be fascinating but like you had my reservations. What I found interesting recently (and what you may too) is in one of his weekly meetings he addresses the notion of “seeing without eyes” — people reporting seeing their body from the third person, confirming conversations or whatever else whilst clinically dead. If we take this on face value, it’s not just that they “know” what took place in the room, it’s that they *saw* what took place. Using kastrup’s analogy, that’s seeing the dials moving on the dashboard itself whilst being outside of the plane! That’s strange! And if true, definitely poses a threat to his thesis.

Great essay:)

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