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Josh M.'s avatar

Hi Matt,

I don't get the sense that Unger in any way means by "spirit" and "nothingness/groundlessness," e.g., in the same sense that Steiner or other spiritually oriented philosophers mean it, or that he draws any of his philosophy from spiritual sources. He has been involved in politics for 50 years, not meaning to downgrade that, since he seems to be doing it from a good place, but just to say that he is very out there in the world, and this book specifically seems to be another expression of his sincere efforts to bring the world forward.

Furthermore, his philosophy is clearly materialistic. It is said that he "takes on the Newtonian idea of the independent observer standing outside of time and space, addresses the skepticism of David Hume, rejects the position of Kant, and attacks speculations about parallel universes of contemporary cosmology." From what I've read, he seems to be offering a post-Richard Dawkins style religion, something that Dan Dennett would have agreed with. Yes, one could paraphrase what he's saying as, "One should live to the utmost in the moment but in the context of history," but Unger would not mean that the way Buddha or even Whitehead would mean it.

What I'm trying to say is that to me at least it sounds dissonant and jarring to place a spiritual teaching next to a material philosophical one for comparison unless you're implying that he picked up on Steiner's ideas in ways unbeknownst to him or is himself a closeted anthroposophist, or is simply expressing a materialist's view that just happens to be, again, unbeknownst to him, a practical application of some of Steiner's ideas.

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Michael Draskovic's avatar

Great connections, Matt. My sense is that Steiner's approach can help resolve Unger's recognition of the "disparity between the weightiness of spiritual commitment and the inadequacy of the grounds for making it.” Doing so would also illuminate Unger's ideas in a new light, particularly his notions of sharing "in the attributes of the divine"—becoming "bigger, more alive, more equal, connecting with one another in love": participated experience.

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