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Matthew McCarthy's avatar

‘Economics as a subset of ecology’ is a good point

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Luddite’s were not anti-tech per se, they were against new technologies putting them out of business in a changing technoeconomic context, so destroying the means by which that took place was a survival strategy. No universal basic income then, so the question would be what is the proper way to transition -- creative destruction, social safety net, etc.. -- especially when Jevon’s paradox means any efficiency will mean the intensification of productivity, I.e. more extraction, exploitation, emissions, etc. Today, corporations and states are the new luddites, recognizing that if working class is put out of business they lose votes, it’s how trump won on protectionism and tariffs while critiquing free trade. All are responses to capital, in which case what response is best? Any use of money would perpetuate the circulation which prompts bullshit jobs to siphon off that money/energy/time to survive. Four hour workweek would maintain the basic relationship just reduce it. Seems a new medium of exchange is needed, one that is not scarce, and which itself has immense use value. Hemp might be this, or DMT for that matter. Modeling a future economy on subsistence also seems a worthwhile consideration - what is it we really need? As long as there are bills or rent or mortgages to pay, we will continue to need money and continue to depend on and reproduce markets, states, and debt violence. So, how to interrupt this inequitable flow structure and remake it equitably or negate its existence with another one more resonant than the other so the former collapses as it loses the attention/energy it depends on to stay energized. Like capitalism, anarchy’s mantra is the urge to destroy is a creative urge. Destroy capital in your life as much as possible and see what fills the empty space now that there is the freedom to play this out

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